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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 02:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shogun,
I have a great suggestion for you...   perfect actually.  Because what you want to watch is available to you...

The WNBA.

Just think, you get to share in the beauty of basketball without any &quot;thugs&quot; or people who play defense.  I have a feeling you&#039;re gonna love it so much you&#039;ll begin to share their monthly cycles....

Don&#039;t worry, though, we&#039;ll really miss you over here where the men play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shogun,<br />
I have a great suggestion for you&#8230;   perfect actually.  Because what you want to watch is available to you&#8230;</p>
<p>The WNBA.</p>
<p>Just think, you get to share in the beauty of basketball without any &#8220;thugs&#8221; or people who play defense.  I have a feeling you&#8217;re gonna love it so much you&#8217;ll begin to share their monthly cycles&#8230;.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, though, we&#8217;ll really miss you over here where the men play.</p>
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		<title>By: Shogun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shogun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 22:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NBA:  â€œI love this game, but not anymoreâ€

With the wonderful handling of the officiating in the NBA in general I believe its time for the fans to take action.  For those who watched the Suns / Spurs series I must say that it had the worst officiating in the history of professional sports.  At least in the opinion of myself and many others.  I could give a laundry list of examples but this isnâ€™t a gripe email.  The fact is that to win a championship in the NBA you must not possess skill, speed, or ability.  You must possess thugs to hammer better players to the ground.  You must beat the crap out of your opponents,  and you must use third string players to hammer superstars in front of their bench.  This is what makes a champion in the NBA.  Sad but True.  

The rules are enforced to favor the teams that approach this style of full contact basket ball.  Iâ€™m not watching basket ball, Iâ€™m watching the old Arnold Schwarzenegger movie The Running Man, except the good guy looses.

I personally am going to boycott the NBA until further notice.  This is no longer a game of skill that centers around putting the ball in the basket.  It is a boxing match that centers around the strategy of how to most effectively hit and assault the other team.  My personal message to David Sternâ€¦  â€œI love this game, but not anymoreâ€

Boycott the NBA.   National â€œBoxingâ€ Association</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NBA:  â€œI love this game, but not anymoreâ€</p>
<p>With the wonderful handling of the officiating in the NBA in general I believe its time for the fans to take action.  For those who watched the Suns / Spurs series I must say that it had the worst officiating in the history of professional sports.  At least in the opinion of myself and many others.  I could give a laundry list of examples but this isnâ€™t a gripe email.  The fact is that to win a championship in the NBA you must not possess skill, speed, or ability.  You must possess thugs to hammer better players to the ground.  You must beat the crap out of your opponents,  and you must use third string players to hammer superstars in front of their bench.  This is what makes a champion in the NBA.  Sad but True.  </p>
<p>The rules are enforced to favor the teams that approach this style of full contact basket ball.  Iâ€™m not watching basket ball, Iâ€™m watching the old Arnold Schwarzenegger movie The Running Man, except the good guy looses.</p>
<p>I personally am going to boycott the NBA until further notice.  This is no longer a game of skill that centers around putting the ball in the basket.  It is a boxing match that centers around the strategy of how to most effectively hit and assault the other team.  My personal message to David Sternâ€¦  â€œI love this game, but not anymoreâ€</p>
<p>Boycott the NBA.   National â€œBoxingâ€ Association</p>
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 23:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sun cried wolf too many times and too often, Don&#039;t blames rules and Spurs, you out did yourselves Girly men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sun cried wolf too many times and too often, Don&#8217;t blames rules and Spurs, you out did yourselves Girly men.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 21:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole thing was just so over-the-top...

First, I can&#039;t think of any other rule the NBA has enforced with as much consistency as they have this one.  They did it to bigger stars than Amare, they did it when it had an even bigger impact on a playoff series, and they did it against bigger-market teams (big-market teams don&#039;t come any bigger than the Knicks...). Only in our dreams could game officials even come remotely close to that level of consistency in calling any violations - obviously, I&#039;d love for them to achieve that when it comes to blocking/charging calls, but, frankly, I&#039;d be thrilled if they could do it with something simple, like travelling, double-dribble, heck, ANY one thing...

And, by the way, the whole Duncan/Bowen did it is a complete non-starter.  I don&#039;t think that fit the definition of &quot;altercation&quot; for ANYBODY, not just for Stu Jackson.  In their heart of hearts, when they act all grown up in real life, even Suns fans would have to admit that.  If not, they could do a little thought experiment - using that as the new template for &quot;altercation&quot;, how long before it blew up in YOUR faces?  And how would you feel then?

Second, obviously context is everything, but for all the hysteria surrounding this, if you were to rank the hardest fouls just for this post-season, where would Horry&#039;s rank?  Would it seriously even make the top 10???  And remind me again, how many others drew a 2(as in two!!!!) game suspension?  Or even a 1 game? 

..... sorry, thought you were still counting...

And if you&#039;re going to tack on the extra game for the elbows up on Raja(pretending, of course, that you were doing it seriously, and not merely to cut down just a teeeeeeny bit on the whinestorm rolling out of the valley of the sun...), how exactly did Raja not get a little of that action?  Horry is walking away, show&#039;s over, call the flagrant, move on...   without Raja&#039;s escalation, the whole thing is over in seconds, and the Suns get their well-deserved win and leave the Spurs disgusted with their play the last two minutes and griping (privately, of course, we&#039;re not talking about Amare and D&#039;Antoni here...) about the screw job the refs just pulled on them, and we strap it on for a full-strength battle royale in the desert...

Where - and here&#039;s the part that gets me every time I read another comment about how the Suns were better, and were going to win, and no doubt about it - the Spurs still own their asses...    Remind me again - what&#039;s the Suns sterling record against the Spurs lately?  Was this going to be the hugest upset of all time with the Spurs managing to conquer the team they get beat by all the time?  What?  Come again?  You mean, the Spurs actually beat the Suns like half the time even when they&#039;re full strength?  Why, that just cannot be!!!  Oh, it isn&#039;t...

See, it&#039;s waaaaay better than half the time.  In fact, except for the wishful thinking of the Suns fanbase, which includes EVERY casual fan, which includes MOST of the media, this was going to be an uphill battle for the Suns from the get-go.  Those pesky matchups again...

Don&#039;t get me wrong, the Suns are hugely fun to watch.  I used to love watching the Nuggets back in the Moe days too.  And the RunTMC Warriors.  And I used to be disappointed every year when every one of those teams failed to win against the balanced, boring, play-defense-all-the-time teams that seem to always win the long series in the playoffs...   Of course, in honesty, I don&#039;t recall those teams, or frankly, ANY teams ever whining as much as these Suns...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole thing was just so over-the-top&#8230;</p>
<p>First, I can&#8217;t think of any other rule the NBA has enforced with as much consistency as they have this one.  They did it to bigger stars than Amare, they did it when it had an even bigger impact on a playoff series, and they did it against bigger-market teams (big-market teams don&#8217;t come any bigger than the Knicks&#8230;). Only in our dreams could game officials even come remotely close to that level of consistency in calling any violations &#8211; obviously, I&#8217;d love for them to achieve that when it comes to blocking/charging calls, but, frankly, I&#8217;d be thrilled if they could do it with something simple, like travelling, double-dribble, heck, ANY one thing&#8230;</p>
<p>And, by the way, the whole Duncan/Bowen did it is a complete non-starter.  I don&#8217;t think that fit the definition of &#8220;altercation&#8221; for ANYBODY, not just for Stu Jackson.  In their heart of hearts, when they act all grown up in real life, even Suns fans would have to admit that.  If not, they could do a little thought experiment &#8211; using that as the new template for &#8220;altercation&#8221;, how long before it blew up in YOUR faces?  And how would you feel then?</p>
<p>Second, obviously context is everything, but for all the hysteria surrounding this, if you were to rank the hardest fouls just for this post-season, where would Horry&#8217;s rank?  Would it seriously even make the top 10???  And remind me again, how many others drew a 2(as in two!!!!) game suspension?  Or even a 1 game? </p>
<p>&#8230;.. sorry, thought you were still counting&#8230;</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re going to tack on the extra game for the elbows up on Raja(pretending, of course, that you were doing it seriously, and not merely to cut down just a teeeeeeny bit on the whinestorm rolling out of the valley of the sun&#8230;), how exactly did Raja not get a little of that action?  Horry is walking away, show&#8217;s over, call the flagrant, move on&#8230;   without Raja&#8217;s escalation, the whole thing is over in seconds, and the Suns get their well-deserved win and leave the Spurs disgusted with their play the last two minutes and griping (privately, of course, we&#8217;re not talking about Amare and D&#8217;Antoni here&#8230;) about the screw job the refs just pulled on them, and we strap it on for a full-strength battle royale in the desert&#8230;</p>
<p>Where &#8211; and here&#8217;s the part that gets me every time I read another comment about how the Suns were better, and were going to win, and no doubt about it &#8211; the Spurs still own their asses&#8230;    Remind me again &#8211; what&#8217;s the Suns sterling record against the Spurs lately?  Was this going to be the hugest upset of all time with the Spurs managing to conquer the team they get beat by all the time?  What?  Come again?  You mean, the Spurs actually beat the Suns like half the time even when they&#8217;re full strength?  Why, that just cannot be!!!  Oh, it isn&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
<p>See, it&#8217;s waaaaay better than half the time.  In fact, except for the wishful thinking of the Suns fanbase, which includes EVERY casual fan, which includes MOST of the media, this was going to be an uphill battle for the Suns from the get-go.  Those pesky matchups again&#8230;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, the Suns are hugely fun to watch.  I used to love watching the Nuggets back in the Moe days too.  And the RunTMC Warriors.  And I used to be disappointed every year when every one of those teams failed to win against the balanced, boring, play-defense-all-the-time teams that seem to always win the long series in the playoffs&#8230;   Of course, in honesty, I don&#8217;t recall those teams, or frankly, ANY teams ever whining as much as these Suns&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Response to YAYSports &#124; az Sports Hub - Arizona Sports - Blog - Podcasts - Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 21:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I like YAYSports. &#160;I think they are usually right on the mark with stuff. &#160;But in this case, they&#8217;re just plain wrong. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 20:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rubbish.  I&#039;ve had it up to here with the &quot;a rule is a rule&quot; rationalizations that seek to reduce everything to some black-and-white situation that little resembles the initial incident.  Think about the American legal system.  Is a rule just a rule there?  Hell no.  We have many, many situations where the cold objectivity of a rule is compensated for by a human audience-- by the juries and judges who can see shades of grey and opt for the spirit of the law when the letter doesn&#039;t fit the crime.  Ostensibly identical crimes are often given vastly different penalties, not because the rules dictate as much but because human eyes judge them.  Why shouldn&#039;t the NBA judge Amare and Boris within the context of the situation, rather than according to some absolute &quot;he did or did not stand up&quot; standard?  Is it cheating to give every unique situation a unique appraisal?  What&#039;s more, the real legal system doesn&#039;t consolidate power in a single sovereign body; it offers appeals, multiple opportunities for all sides to have their day in court and for absolute fairness to have its best shot at the light of day.  How is it fair that Amare and Boris had no realistic recourse in this situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubbish.  I&#8217;ve had it up to here with the &#8220;a rule is a rule&#8221; rationalizations that seek to reduce everything to some black-and-white situation that little resembles the initial incident.  Think about the American legal system.  Is a rule just a rule there?  Hell no.  We have many, many situations where the cold objectivity of a rule is compensated for by a human audience&#8211; by the juries and judges who can see shades of grey and opt for the spirit of the law when the letter doesn&#8217;t fit the crime.  Ostensibly identical crimes are often given vastly different penalties, not because the rules dictate as much but because human eyes judge them.  Why shouldn&#8217;t the NBA judge Amare and Boris within the context of the situation, rather than according to some absolute &#8220;he did or did not stand up&#8221; standard?  Is it cheating to give every unique situation a unique appraisal?  What&#8217;s more, the real legal system doesn&#8217;t consolidate power in a single sovereign body; it offers appeals, multiple opportunities for all sides to have their day in court and for absolute fairness to have its best shot at the light of day.  How is it fair that Amare and Boris had no realistic recourse in this situation?</p>
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		<title>By: The Cavalier</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Cavalier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, wasn&#039;t that scuffle not during the actual game? Wasn&#039;t after it or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, wasn&#8217;t that scuffle not during the actual game? Wasn&#8217;t after it or something?</p>
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		<title>By: D Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>D Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John R and other historians, perhaps you all should review the history books. The Kings/Lakers fight that spilled into the tunnel (2003), was a PRESEASON game. The rules that govern these situations are not necessarily the same. Stern taking a different course of action on a preseason game won&#039;t affect the post season, just the beginning of the regular season. Stern or the NBA has not bent the rules, they have rigidly adhered to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John R and other historians, perhaps you all should review the history books. The Kings/Lakers fight that spilled into the tunnel (2003), was a PRESEASON game. The rules that govern these situations are not necessarily the same. Stern taking a different course of action on a preseason game won&#8217;t affect the post season, just the beginning of the regular season. Stern or the NBA has not bent the rules, they have rigidly adhered to them.</p>
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